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    пока я на отдыхе и покатавшись на западе, есть куча всяких разных hot shot , вопрос на засыпку, кто что знает?
    Если авто на частных номерах и не более 26000паундов cdl не требуется.
    Но как насчет весов? надо на них заезжать? во всех штатах? я на весах эти хотьшоты видел всего 1 раз, и там реально он был перегружен, а кто что видел? особенно вопрос к тракерам.
    по факту если у тебя свой авто, свой прицеп и вес общий до 26000, тебе не требуется cdl и лог бук.

  • #2
    Re: hot shot обсудим?

    Насколько я понимаю - всё что больше 10 тысяч фунтов должно заезжать на весы - частные номера или комерческие не важно. CDL до 26 тысяч фунтов не требуется, а вот лог бук при любой коммерческой межштатовской перевозке требуется, даже при весе менее 26 тысяч. Это то как я понимаю ситуацию.

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    • #3
      Re: hot shot обсудим?

      вот тут мнения и расходятся!!! я виду много более 10 тыс, они на весы не заезжают, когда регтуешь большегруз до 26 тыс, и около 26 фит, они тоже не заезжают и сдл не требудется( кто вещи перевозит к примеру) вот и хочу разобраться с жтим

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      • #4
        Re: hot shot обсудим?

        Про CDL здесь:




        Очень часто перед WS стоит знак, типа, All trucks over 5 tons must scale, иногда 4 тонны. Здесь указаны короткие тонны. 1 short ton = 2,000 Lbs
        Иногда пишут:
        - All trucks must exit
        - Trucks must exit when flashing
        - Truckers must report when flashing
        - By pass when flashing

        Если перед WS нет никаких указаний, то лучше придерживаться правил для каждого штата:

        Alabama
        An officer may require the measuring or weighing of truck or trailer. Measurement may be conducted by portable or stationary scales. Officer may order truck or trailer to stationary scales if within a distance of 5 miles.

        Alaska
        Trucks over 10,000 lbs. GVWR are required to stop.

        Arizona
        Any commodity shipped into the state is subject to inspection for agricultural pests. Gross weight fees apply to trailers and semitrailers with GVW of 10,000 lbs. or less; motor vehicles or vehicle combination if used primarily for transporting passengers for compensation; a hearse or ambulance or similar vehicle used in conduct of a mortician

        Arkansas
        The following vehicles must stop at weight/inspection stations: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, whether single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more.

        California
        Every driver of a commercial vehicle shall stop and submit the vehicle to an inspection of the size, weight, equipment, and smoke emissions of the vehicle at any location where members of the California Highway Patrol are conducting tests and inspections of commercial vehicles and when signs are displayed requiring the stop.

        Colorado
        Every owner or operator of a motor vehicle having a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of over 26,000 lbs. shall secure a valid clearance from an office of the DOR, from an officer of the Colorado State Patrol, or from a port of entry weigh station before operating such vehicle or combination of vehicles in the state.

        Connecticut
        All commercial motor vehicles are required to stop.

        Delaware
        The Secretary of the DPS may adopt such regulations and procedures as may be necessary for law enforcement weighing purposes.

        District of Columbia
        N/A.

        Florida
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural, motor vehicles (including trailers) which are or could be used in the production, manufacture, storage, sale, or transportation of any food product or any agricultural, horticultural or live stock product, except private passenger automobiles with no trailer in tow, travel trailers, camping trailers, and motor homes; (2) any commercial vehicle (a) with a GWR of 10,000 lbs. or more, (b) designed to transport more than 10 passengers, or (c) used to transport hazardous materials.

        Georgia
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, either single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; and (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more.

        Hawaii
        Trucks over 10,000 lbs. GVWR must stop.

        Idaho
        10 fixed ports of entry, 10 roving units.

        Illinois
        A police officer may pull over any vehicle suspected of exceeding weight limits.

        Indiana
        All trucks with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 10,000 lbs. or more must stop.

        Iowa
        Any peace officer having reason to believe that the weight of a vehicle and load is unlawful is authorized to require the driver to stop and submit to a weighing of the same by means of either portable or stationary scales and may require the vehicle to be driven to the nearest public scales. If the officer determines that the weight is unlawful, the officer may require the driver to stop the vehicle in a suitable place until such portion of the load is removed as may be necessary to reduce the GVW to the permitted limit.
        All vehicles weighing over 10,000 lbs. must stop.

        Kansas
        All vehicles registered as trucks are required to stop at motor carrier safety and weight inspection stations when signs direct them to do so.
        Any police officer having reason to believe that a vehicle or combination of vehicles is exceeding the legal weight limit may require the driver to stop and submit to a weighing of the vehicle by means of either portable or stationary scales.

        Kentucky
        Vehicles transporting agricultural products and all commercial vehicles with GVW rating of 10,000 lbs. or more must stop.

        Louisiana
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, either single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more.

        Maine
        On direction of a state police officer or at a designated weigh point an operator must drive the vehicle onto the scales for weighing and permit examination of registration certificate and the load.

        Maryland
        The Department of State Police maintains 7 vehicle weighing and measuring stations, with 1 station on Interstate 95.
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural vehicles over 10,000 lbs.; (2) all commercial vehicles over 10,000 lbs.; (3) commercial buses carrying over 16 passengers; (4) any hazardous material haulers requiring placards.

        Massachusetts
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural vehicles; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles, either single or in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; (3) commercial trucks with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more.

        Michigan
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) vehicles with dual rear wheels transporting agricultural products; (2) trucks over 10,000 lbs. with dual rear wheels and/or towing construction equipment; (3) all tractor/semitrailer combination vehicles.

        Minnesota
        All vehicles with a GVW rating in excess of 10,000 lbs. must stop.

        Mississippi
        The State Tax Commission, tax collectors, highway patrol, or another authorized enforcement officer, shall have a right to weigh or have weighed any vehicle to ascertain the accuracy of registration.

        Missouri
        All commercial trucks licensed with a GVWR of over 18,000 lbs. must stop.

        Montana
        Vehicles transporting agricultural products and trucks with a GVW of 8,000 lbs. or more and new or used RVs being transported to a distributor or dealer must stop.

        Nebraska
        All trucks over 1 ton must stop, except a pickup truck pulling a recreational trailer.

        Nevada
        The following vehicles must stop: (1) agricultural; (2) passenger or specialty vehicles either in combination (towing a trailer) with GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more; and, (3) commercial trucks with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or more.

        New Hampshire
        The driver of every motor vehicle shall, upon request of any law enforcement officer, stop and submit such to a weighing of said motor vehicle by means of either portable or stationary scales. If such scales are not available at the place where the stopping occurs, upon request of a law enforcement officer, the driver shall drive said motor vehicle to the nearest public scales provided the distance to the public scales does not exceed 10 miles.

        New Jersey
        New Jersey requires all vehicles that weigh 10,001 lbs or more to weigh.

        New Mexico
        Trucks with a GVWR of 26,001 lbs. or more must stop.

        New York
        State has fixed inspection/weigh stations along with random enforcement through use of portable units.

        North Carolina
        The DOT operates between 6 and 13 permanent weighing stations.
        A law enforcement officer may stop and weigh a vehicle to determine if the vehicle’s weight is in compliance with the vehicle’s declared gross weight and weight limits.

        North Dakota
        All vehicles with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 lbs. must stop. Exception: recreational vehicles used for personal, recreational purposes.

        Ohio
        All commercial vehicles over 5 tons (10,000 lbs) are required to cross the scales if the weigh station is open in Ohio.

        Oklahoma
        Any officer of DPS, the Oklahoma Tax Commission, or any sheriff is authorized to stop any vehicle in order to weigh the vehicle with portable or stationary scales.

        Oregon
        All vehicles or combination of vehicles weighing 26,000 lbs. must stop.

        Pennsylvania
        Regardless of size, the following vehicles are subject to inspection and weigh station examinations: (1) agriculture vehicles when using public highways; (2) passenger and specialty vehicles towing large trailers; (3) large recreational vehicles, and (4) trucks.

        Rhode Island
        Agricultural vehicles and trucks with a gross vehicle weight rating over 10,000 lbs. must stop.

        South Carolina
        If the Department has reason to believe that the weight of a vehicle and load is unlawful, it may require the driver to stop and submit to a weighing of the vehicle and load either by means of portable or stationary scales and may require that the vehicle be driven to the nearest public scales.
        Whenever an officer upon weighing a vehicle and load determines that the weight is unlawful, he may require the driver to stop the vehicle in a suitable place and remain standing until the portion of the load necessary to reduce the axle weight, or gross weight of the vehicle, or both, is removed.
        All material unloaded must be cared for by the owner or operator of the vehicle at his own risk. The scaled weights of the gross weight of vehicles and combinations of vehicles cannot be closer than 10% to the true gross weight.

        South Dakota
        The following trucks must stop: (1) agricultural vehicles with a GVW rating over 8,000 lbs.; (2) trucks over 8,000 lbs.; (3) drive-away operations in excess of 8,000 lbs. GVW rating.

        Tennessee
        Placed statewide, checking federal and state restrictions related to size and weight, safety, and drivers regulations.

        Texas
        All commercial vehicles must stop when directed by sign or police officer.

        Utah
        Any peace officer having reason to believe that the height, width, length, or weight of a vehicle and its load is unlawful may require the operator to stop the vehicle and submit to a measurement or weighing of the vehicle and load. A peace officer may require the vehicle to be driven to the nearest scales or port-of-entry within 3 miles.

        Vermont
        Any uniformed police officer, having reason to believe that the weight of the vehicle and load is unlawful, may stop such motor vehicles up to one hour for the purpose of determining the weight of said vehicle and load. If the operator does not wish to submit to the weighing of such vehicle and load by means of portable scales he or she may demand that such vehicle be weighed at the nearest public scales reasonably available, however, if public scales are not reasonably available, the officer may require the vehicle to be weighed on portable scales.

        Virginia
        Trucks must stop if their registered gross weight exceeds 7,500 lbs.

        Washington
        Agricultural vehicles and trucks with a GVWR over 10,000 lbs. must stop.

        West Virginia
        A police officer or motor carrier safety enforcement officer may require that the driver of a vehicle or combination of vehicles stop and submit to a weighing with a portable or stationary weighing device, or to drive to the nearest weighing station if within a distance of 2 miles from where vehicle is stopped.

        Wisconsin
        Trucks over 8,000 pounds gross vehicle weight must stop.

        Wyoming
        Trucks are required to stop when instructed by a regulatory sign (black letters on a white background) or a police officer. Trucks and drivers are chosen for inspection on a random basis.
        All oversize and overweight (150,000 lbs. or more) loads must have a permit in hand, or permission to enter the state in order to purchase a permit, before entering Wyoming or operating on Wyoming roads.

        Puerto Rico
        Every heavy motor vehicle that travels on the highways of Puerto Rico shall follow the instructions of the traffic signs and signals related or associated to the weighing process of trucks in the permanent weighing stations.

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        • #5
          Re: hot shot обсудим?

          Originally posted by reebok
          вот тут мнения и расходятся!!! я виду много более 10 тыс, они на весы не заезжают, когда регтуешь большегруз до 26 тыс, и около 26 фит, они тоже не заезжают и сдл не требудется( кто вещи перевозит к примеру) вот и хочу разобраться с жтим
          Если кто то и не заезжает это ещё не означает что это законно. Вон Чикагин всё разложил по полочкам.

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          • #6
            Re: hot shot обсудим?

            Originally posted by kb7dispatch
            Если кто то и не заезжает это ещё не означает что это законно. Вон Чикагин всё разложил по полочкам.
            Может у кого-то в кабине bypass установлен или еще какай-нибудь хрень автоматической регистрации

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            • #7
              Re: hot shot обсудим?

              Или просто люди даже не догадываются что такое weight station. Взяли грузовик в аренду и рассекают как на легковушке не о чём не заботясь...

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              • #8
                Re: hot shot обсудим?

                подведем итоги.
                СДЛ не нужен для авто , которое меньше 10 тыс паундов , или может тащить до 10 тыс паундов при этом гросс вес не более 26000 паундов.
                по взвешиванию, там уже вопрос, в зависимости от штата. Некоторые штаты и спринтеры заезжать должны(если они на коммерческих номерах?)


                Все верно?

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                • #9
                  Re: hot shot обсудим?

                  Нет, не верно. CDL не нужен если общий допустимый вес одного грузовика или грузовика с прицепов не превышает 26000 фунтов. Заметьте не просто вес, но общий допустимый вес (GVWR). То есть, ваш грузовик может иметь реальный вес с грузом меньше 26000, но если его GVWR больше 26000 то без CDL им управлять нельзя. И насчёт коммерческих номеров - "New Jersey requires all vehicles that weigh 10,001 lbs or more to weigh" Тут например вообще ничего не говорится о коммерческих номерах... Как то так от..

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                  • #10
                    Re: hot shot обсудим?

                    А кто-то подскажет есть ли у нас тут на форуме Hot Shot Owner Operators?

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                    • #11
                      Re: hot shot обсудим?

                      Hot Shot Owner Operators
                      есть и много.
                      Вы пишите сразу ваши условия, какой % даете, открываете ли всю сумму контракта, средняя цена пробега, суммы за простои и ожидания.
                      Будут хорошие, побегут. Ну и чем вы отличаетесь от других, может есть свои контракты прямые?
                      Если играете как все, дайте стандартную рекламу в газеты и интернете, народ и прибежит к вам.

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                      • #12
                        Re: hot shot обсудим?

                        Заоблачных цен обещать не буду, тут же как и в экспедайтд. Захотел поехал, захотел - нет!))) Рейт за лоад озвучиваем сразу, конфирмейшн, при желании, на руки. А так могу сказать, что 1-1.05 за майл.

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                        • #13
                          Re: hot shot обсудим?

                          А так могу сказать, что 1-1.05 за майл.
                          для хотшота маловато. Был бы такой рейт на экспедайтед, они все ваши были бы....
                          32фт степдек на додже в конце января средний рейт был 1.35-1.55 за милю.(это на весте)
                          Жрет то эта дура не мало 9-11мпг, а горючка ток поднимается.
                          По этому кто ищет, всегда найдет......

                          Кстати , какой % себе берете?

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                          • #14
                            Re: hot shot обсудим?

                            Неверную инфу предоставил - по неосведомленности! Рейты и в самом деле получаются другие. reebok прав! По нынешним временам выходит даже больше, чем он написал. Просто конкретно эта тема для нас новая, с Хот Шатами только начали работать. Если кто-то захочет присоединиться, буду рад сотрудничеству.

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                            • #15
                              Re: hot shot обсудим?

                              Originally posted by Mike Sklyar
                              Рейты и в самом деле получаются другие. reebok прав.
                              Рибок у нас главный эксперт! Это вам не хухры мухры!

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