DV2005 i out of status v proshlom???

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Izvinite mne dlia plohom ruskom jzike. J iz Bolgarii no mne o4en ponravilsj wa6 forum. U menj est problem.J polu4il pismo dlj DV2005 no v pro6lom j bil dva raza v USA po programe Camp America Vtoroi raz j ne u6ol v campa.Rabotal na drugoe mesto.Sei4as j ponjl 4to j bil out of status. U menj bil Social security number i j rabotal s nim.V dokumentov kotoroe j polu4il nado napisat vse mesta gde j rabotal 10 let nazad. J ne znaju chto delat. Nada li pisat chto ja rabotal illegal ili opustit te raboti gde j bil nelegalno. Esli napishu, j sam priznaju, esli ne napishu immigrationi mozno skazat , chto j sovral. Znaet li kto nibud chto immigrationi proverjaut. Delajut li oni proverki po Social Security Number?

Bil li u vas takoj problem. J budu ochen rad esli kto nibud mozet posovetovat.

Ochen sposibo.

Я попробую спросить вместо Раевского:

1) Когда вы въехали в США и когда покинули страну? Желательно с датами.

2) Вы говорите out of status, значит ли это что пробыли в стране больше чем 4 месяца? Какие даты были написаны в вашей I94 форме?



Никогда не слышал чтобы у человека были проблемы изза того что он сменил место работы в стране по программе work&travel. Я бы совершенно не беспокоился из-за этого.



Mikhail

PS по английски здесь народ в большинстве своем говорит, так что feel free to speak english

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sasho писал(а) Tue, 08 June 2004 16:11
Nada li pisat chto ja rabotal illegal ili opustit te raboti gde j bil nelegalno. Esli napishu, j sam priznaju, esli ne napishu immigrationi mozno skazat , chto j sovral.

Если на при устройстве на нелегальную работу вы указывали свой SSN то это может тоже всплыть, так что лучьше не скрывать.

А если не указывали, то вообще и не упоминайте об этом, это не обнаружится.

Thank you for your answer. First year I was in the USA from 10 June 1998 till 20 November 1998. On I-94 form I had D/S - duration of status which means that I was authorized to work till 30.09. and had a month for sightseing. I filled a request, which was not approved, for change of status from J-1 to B2. After refuse I left.

Second year I was in the USA from 6 June till 5 October. I was within my J-1 period. I didn't go to camp at all.



1) I am wondering whether in DS-230 form question "22. List all employement for the last ten years.", to put down

"unautorized" work? I have worked with my Social Security number.



2) Do immigrations have ties to social security administration database containing work history?

I think it doesn't matter whether you go to camp or not. Technically you still have permition to work within the perion indicated in your DS-2019 form. Well, probably it matters just in case you will be going to participate in the same program (with the same sponsor) next year. And even if yor overstayed less than 180 days or were working illegaly it wouldn't affect your CP. However you wouldn't be eligible for AOS in the Unites States. But I might be wrong, so you'd better wait for Raevsky's answer.



P.S. There is one more thing I found out yesterday:

Quote:
If any foreign national remains in the United States without authorization, he/she would potentially be subject to a removal (i.e., a deportation) action. Even if the BCIS were to commence deportation proceedings, in many instances it would be possible to arrange for a termination of these proceedings in return for the unequivocal promise to depart the United States within a stipulated period of time (i.e., Voluntary Departure). In this instance, the foreign national would normally be able to promptly reenter the U.S. under a valid visa which, in the paradigm of this paper would occur following final approval of both the waiver and your employer's H-1B petition.



In addition, our immigration laws also contain provisions which substantially penalizes a broad class of foreign nationals who reside unlawfully in this country. Specifically, many foreign nationals who reside unlawfully in the United States for over 180 days will face a 3-year bar to reentering this country; periods of unlawful presence in excess of 360 days generally result in a 10-year bar from this country. In addition, many foreign nationals who reside for any period of time without authorization - even one day - become barred from processing for their nonimmigrant visas through third countries and must instead apply for any such visas only within their home country.



Fortunately, J-1 physicians and most other Exchange Visitors are largely exempted from the draconian provisions which are described above. Owing to the fact that most J-1 Exchange Visitors are issued I-94 cards which have been endorsed as "D/S" (i.e., duration of status), they will not accumulate any periods of unlawful presence so as to invoke these 3/10 year potential bars, even if they reside beyond the date appearing on the IAP 66 form. Furthermore, they will continue to remain eligible to apply for an H-1B or other nonimmigrant visa through a U.S. Consulate in a third country (generally, Canada or Mexico). The underlying policy for this exemption for J-1 Exchange Visitors lies in the fact that their I-94 card does not stipulate a date certain beyond which they accumulate periods of "unlawful presence"; rather, the designation of "D/S" is, in a sense, an amorphously stated end date so as to spare most J-1s from facing certain statutorily-imposed harsh penalties should they overstay their authorized period of J-1 status. (However, if the BCIS makes an affirmative determination of J-1 status and specifically enters a date certain on the I-94 card, here the J-1 Exchange Visitor would be subject to the above-stated penalties.)



However, certain violations of status will present potential complications when the time comes to get permanent resident status. In the event that a J-1 Exchange Visitor accumulates in the aggregate periods in excess of 180 days following admission to the U.S. in which he/she fails to maintain lawful status - including periods of unauthorized employment - he/she could be barred from adjusting to permanent resident status here in the United States. Please note, though, that this does not preclude a foreign national from processing for an immigrant visa through a U.S. Consulate abroad; rather, it merely serves as a preclusion to adjusting to permanent resident status in the United States.



Furthermore, please remember that J-1 physicians holding waivers through interested government agencies need to fulfill a three-year period in H-1B status. If such an Exchange Visitor maintains continuous lawful residence, he/she will be able to change from J-1 to H-1B status here in the United States. However, if such a foreign national falls out of status prior to filing the H-1B petition and change of status application, he/she will instead need to process for an H-1B visa through a U.S. Consulate abroad.

Hi there I have similar problem but a little more serious, you can check on my forums:

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadi d=233848

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadi d=233849



I dont think that employment is seriuos violation excluding you from dv emigration benefis,

Of course for non immigrant visa thats seriuos offence not to issues visa because of immigrant intent.



anyway goodluck, write back whats happened on either situation after your interview



Right now I thinkink what to do with my DV as i was out of status D/S for 2 years but not "present unlawfuly" (according to the u.s law), even this doesn make me to loose an immigration benefit..

well see whats gonna happen

sasho писал(а) Wed, 09 June 2004 14:21
Thank you for your answer. First year I was in the USA from 10 June 1998 till 20 November 1998. On I-94 form I had D/S - duration of status which means that I was authorized to work till 30.09. and had a month for sightseing. I filled a request, which was not approved, for change of status from J-1 to B2. After refuse I left.

Second year I was in the USA from 6 June till 5 October. I was within my J-1 period. I didn't go to camp at all.



1) I am wondering whether in DS-230 form question "22. List all employement for the last ten years.", to put down

"unautorized" work? I have worked with my Social Security number.



2) Do immigrations have ties to social security administration database containing work history?

Если вы не против, я отвечу по русски, тем более что понимаете вы по русски хорошо.

Вам дали визу на второй год, то есть у вас был out of status, но менее 180 дней. Иммиграционную визу вы будете получать в том же консулате, что и предыдущие J1, так что будьте уверены в том что все ваши предыдущие заявки могут всплыть. На второй год вы уехали вовремя, то есть тоже никакого out of status речи быть не может. Разговор может вестись только о нелегальной работе, а здесь еще вопрос была ли она нелегальной. У вас было разрешение на работу, дающее право работать на любого работодателя в пределах США (за малым исключением типа household и т.д.). Однако вы были обязаны сообщить вашему спонсору о смене работы, как я понимаю.

Вообще 50% въезжающих по программе work&travel не имеют работы заранее, то есть ищут ее уже в штатах.



Ваш спонсор обязан был предоставить о вас следующую информацию:

http://exchanges.state.gov/education/jexchanges/private/swt_ faq.htm#reports



Так как вы не сообщили ему о своем месте работы, то там этой информации нет.



Далее, единственное место где может храниться ваше предыдущее место работы - это IRS. Есть ли у консульства доступ к бае данных IRS я не знаю, но думаю что напрямую проверить не получится, разве что запрос послать.



Еще один момент включает в себя то, что если вы соврете в DS-230 форме и это когда нибудь обнаружится даже после получения гражданства, вас могут за это депортировать.



Я бы на вашем месте указал все места работы в штатах, абсолютно не беспокоился по поводу нелегальности этой работы. При этом на интервью в обязательном порядке иметь все IAP-66 формы, и receipt из INS о том что просьба о продлении статуса в первый визит была подана и отвергнута, копию билета на самолет что вы сразу после этого покинули страну. Последние документы иметь при себе, но консулу не показывать до тех пор пока конкретно о них разговор не зайдет.



Mikhail



PS кстати, что было написано в IAP-66 во второй раз? Разрешалось ли вам работать только на одного работодателя? Этот ключевой вопрос я упустил...

You can also read the discussion here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadi d=234395

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