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Zdravctvyjte, moj dryg vuigral GC i yge v CWA, predlogil mne vujti za nego zamyg.Na dannuj moment ya toge naxogyc v Amerike po J-1.
1.Vozmogno li eto cdelat,ecli on ewe ne poly4il gragdanctvo i, ecli da, to v kakom poryadke?
2. Moget li on pocle poly4eniya gragdanctva genitcya na nelegalke?I 4em eto grozit?
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Poka u nego net grajdanstva, eto lish' uslojnit vam jizn'.
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A 4to popovody genitbu na nelegalke?
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Pogalyjcta, podckagite...tak 4to bydet ecli on genitcya na nelegalke?
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Pogalyjcta, podckagite...tak 4to bydet ecli on genitcya na nelegalke?
Zavisit ot togo kto "on".

"On" v statuse permanent resident ili "on" uje v statuse US citizen.
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on ewe v statyse permanent rezident. A 4to pomenyaetcya ecli on bydet v statyse US citizen?
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on ewe v statyse permanent rezident. A 4to pomenyaetcya ecli on bydet v statyse US citizen?
Esli na vas zhenit'sja US citizen to eto (v ideale) ne sozdaet emu osobyx problem i snimaet vashi problemy. Esli na vas jenit'sja grinkartovec to eto mojet sozdat' emu problemy i ne snimaet vashi.
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не знаю как сейчас, но когда моя сестра выходила замуж за держателя грин кард - проблема была только в доказывании нефиктивности брака.
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не знаю как сейчас, но когда моя сестра выходила замуж за держателя грин кард - проблема была только в доказывании нефиктивности брака.
Esli u sestry v moment vyxoda zamuj za derjatelja green card byl legal'ny status* v US to togda vse prekrasno. Esli sestra (predpolojim chto zamuzhestvo proizoshlo vchera - ved' Alenku intersuet imenno nastojashee) ne imela legal'nogo statusa to togda:

a. Ej nado jdat' eshe 5 let prejde chem ona sumeet podat' na Adjustment of Status (konechno green cartovec mojet stat' grazhdaninom ran'she etogo sroka i togda i I-485 podat' mojno ran'she). A vot do podachi I-485 neligalka tak i ostet'sja neligalkoj.

b. Muj je, pri podachi formy N-400 (na grajdanstvo), v part 8 doljen budet otabrazit' chto u nego est' jena neligalka popravshaja vse zakony i ustanovlenija USA...
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Ta y menya cej4ac toge legalnuj ctatyc...J1.A mogno cej4ac, do okon4aniya moego ctatyca pogenitcya?
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Ta y menya cej4ac toge legalnuj ctatyc...J1.A mogno cej4ac, do okon4aniya moego ctatyca pogenitcya?

Proshu proshenija...V moem predidushem postu doljen byl byt':

PS. *Legal'ny status kotory protjanetsja do datay kogda vam budet vozmojno podavat' na Adjustment of Status (formu I-485)

(Ja ne dumayu chto vash J-1 budet vozmojno prodlevat' i prodlevat' i prodlevat' do toj pory)
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получается так, что законы и правила в итоге разделяют семью? Два человека законно создали семью, а в связи с тем, что у одного из них закончился срок пребывания в стране он должен покинуть страну? Наверняка в правилах должен быть пункт для возможности не разрушать семью. По крайней мере общее впечатление от US предполагает, что такое ограничение права человека на создание семьи должно быть оговорено.
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получается так, что законы и правила в итоге разделяют семью? Два человека законно создали семью, а в связи с тем, что у одного из них закончился срок пребывания в стране он должен покинуть страну? Наверняка в правилах должен быть пункт для возможности не разрушать семью. По крайней мере общее впечатление от US предполагает, что такое ограничение права человека на создание семьи должно быть оговорено.
Videte li v chem delo, potencial'no grazhdanin Ameriki i grincartoves v sovokupnosti mogut pritashit' v USA: mamu, papu, jenu, muja, detej (i ix detej), brata i sestru. Potencial'no poluchaetsja gromadnaja massa del v kotoroj nado bylo navesti kakojto porjadok. Poetomu vveli razlicnye kategorii, a dlja razlichnyx kategorij raznye sroki i kvoty. I mne naprimer mojet kzat'sja nespravedlivym chto greenkartovec Vasja Pupkin sumeet peretashit' v Amerku jenu namnogo ran'she chem ja (amerikanskij grajdanin) moego lyubimogo brata...(kotorogo u menja net)

Kstati iz jalosti k jenam i muj'jam grinkartovcev, kotorye jdut osobenno, osobenno dolgo vveli special'nuyu vizu V.
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в принципе конечно с вами согласен, но все таки жена - это такой член семьи, проживание с которым предполагается постоянное, в противном случае семья скорее всего будет разваливаться. Ну а с братом некоторые не видятся годами, живя в соседних подъездах и вполне довольны этим и родственные отношения при этом ничуть не теряются.
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в принципе конечно с вами согласен, но все таки жена - это такой член семьи, проживание с которым предполагается постоянное, в противном случае семья скорее всего будет разваливаться. Ну а с братом некоторые не видятся годами, живя в соседних подъездах и вполне довольны этим и родственные отношения при этом ничуть не теряются.
No ja zh grazhdanin USA! A eto grin kartovec kakoj to...on to ved' golosovat' za kongresmenov ne mojet a ja mogu!! Zhelayu videt' lyubimogo brata!!!

vot videte i vse ravno grinkartovec vperedi menja...

...a kstai jenam etim samym nikto ne zapreshaet poluchat' tak nazyvaemye dual-intent vizy/statusy...(H-1B, O-1, L-1A & B, E-1 & 2)
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tak nazyvaemye dual-intent vizy/statusy
а чуть подробнее в паре слов можно?


Что касаемо "гринкартовца" и гражданина, то очень часто встречаю утверждение, что практически никакого отличия нет, кроме как права голоса. И что многие эмигранты всю жизнь так и не хотят становиться гражданами.

И тем не менее, Кочев, у гринкардовца прав немного меньше хотя бы по воссоединению семьи. Это видно по градации категорий предпочтения. Кстати за уголовщину гражданина посадят и оставят, а гринкардовца лишат гринки и выпроводят.
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а чуть подробнее в паре слов можно?


Что касаемо "гринкартовца" и гражданина, то очень часто встречаю утверждение, что практически никакого отличия нет, кроме как права голоса. И что многие эмигранты всю жизнь так и не хотят становиться гражданами.

И тем не менее, Кочев, у гринкардовца прав немного меньше хотя бы по воссоединению семьи. Это видно по градации категорий предпочтения. Кстати за уголовщину гражданина посадят и оставят, а гринкардовца лишат гринки и выпроводят.
Dual intent vizy eto vizy xotja i nosjashie vremenny (non-immigrant) xarakter no razreshayushie vam imet' imigrazionnye namerenija - to est' esli vy budete na vsex uglax krichat' o svoem namerenii immigriryvat' i daje chto to delat' po etomu povodu (nu naprimer podovat' formu I-485) to takuyu vizu/status u vas ne otberut a vot B-2 ili F-1 ne dadut/otberut.

Razumeetsja u green kartovca prav men'she* (i ne tol'ko v immigracionnom smysle). Eto u menja byla popytka takoj tonkoj ironii chto ee trudno bylo zametit'...

*Naprimer brata/sestru greenkartovec privezti voobshe ne mojet...
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А где можно на русском почитать про этот тип визы: "Dual intent vizy"
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