Нужен совет.

[eiram]

Дорогие форумчане и снова обращяюсь к вам с вопросом.

10 июня прошли успешно интервью. На тот момент Супруга была беременной.
11 июля у нас родился мальчик. Слава богу все хорошо.

Но встал вопросс как происходит продцедура вывоза ребенка. Както давно я задавал этот вопрос и получил ответ от Господина Раеского что оплата в консульстве не составит полнои суммы 775 $ . не помню точную сумму но сегодня на мои звонок в посольство получил огорчающи меня ответ (Все происходит в стандартном порядке и платить как за взрослого человека и мед осмотр и 775 $ пасольские сборы) В чем подвох можно ли както по другому все сделать???

Может кто уже сталкивался с такои ситуацией и знает?

[raevsky]

Dumaiu, vy zadali konsulu ne tot vopros. Navernoe, vy zadali vopros kak rebenku poluchit' vizu. Etogo voprosa zadavat' ne nado, ona emu ne nujna.
Emu nujno svidetel'stvo o rojdenii s perevodom na angliiskii.
Poka ni vy, ni jena v USA ne v'ezjali?

Chtoby rebenka pustili na reis, rebenku mojet ponadobit'sia pasport (svoi ili byt' vpisannym v pasport roditelia, s kotorym on poedet), a takje boarding transportation letter. Boarding transportation letter nebesplatno ($165).

http://guayaquil.usconsulate.gov/bab...on_letter.html

Trebovanie imet' pasport i boarding letter ne imeet nichego obscego s v'ezdom v USA. Eto lish' trebovanie aviakompanii, i ne vse aviakompanii ego trebuiut.

Nu i nakonec, instrukcia oficeru na v'ezde v USA:

CBP Inspector’s Field Manual

14.5 Admission of Certain Immigrant Children without Immigrant Visas. (Revised IN99-11) (Amended IN98-21) (Revised IN98-07)
Children may be admitted as new immigrants without presenting an immigrant visa under two circumstances:
- A child born to an accompanying parent after issuance of an immigrant visa to the parent but prior to the parent’s initial admission as an immigrant (XE3, XF3, XR3 or XN3); or
- A child, under 2 years of age, born during a temporary absence of a lawful permanent resident mother if the child is accompanying the parent who is reentering the U.S. as a returning resident for the first time after the birth of the child (NA3).
You must establish the relationship between parent and child, generally by a birth certificate (with English translation) and, of course, the admissibility of the parent. There have been incidents of attempted fraud in such cases, so in doubtful cases, corroborating evidence such as medical records may be required. Verify the parent’s LPR status using the Central Index System.
It is important that you properly record the admission of such new immigrants. If you are processing a child born subsequent to the issuance of an immigrant visa, use the following admission symbols:
• XE3 Parent is an employment based immigrant;
• XF3 Parent is a family based immigrant;
• XR3 Parent is an immediate relative; or
• XN3 Parent is none of the above.
A child admitted with a returning resident parent is admitted in class NA3.
Upon admission, stamp the passport (the parent’s passport if the child has none) with the admission stamp and endorse it with the admission symbol above. Stamp the “temporary I-551” stamp in the passport. Complete Form I-181, Memorandum of Creation of Record of Lawful Permanent Residence. Check the block marked “other law” and note the block 8 CFR 211.1(b)(1). Place an admission stamp on the right side of the block reserved for use by visa control office and endorse it with the appropriate visa symbol. Complete Transaction 1 of Form I-89, including a photograph, and forward the I-89, I-181, and copy of the birth certificate to the recipient indicated in appendix 15-8 for creation of the alien file and production of the child’s alien registration card. Forward a copy of the I-181 to the file of the parent.

[eiram]

Net poka ni ya ni supruga v USA ne vezjali. Sobiraus poiti li4no v Konsulstvo i vse uznat. Ya zvonil im segodnya i sposil kak priisxodit prodcedura vivoza rebenka. Oni skazali 4to stondartnaya prodcedura. Med osmotr i 775 $ v pasolstve. Eto bil shek.

Budu uznavat dalshe.

[raevsky]

Vy im ne skazali, chto u vas uje est' immigracionnaia viza, kotoraia poluchena do rojdenia rebenka.
Tol'ko v etom sluchae rebenok mojet ehat' bez vizy (i, sootvetstsvenno, bez medosmotra)

A uznavat' nachnite so zvonkov v raznye aviakompanii. Mojet byt', vy naidete takuiu, kotoroi ne nujno boarding letter. A mojet byt', i takuiu, kotoroi ne nujen pasport. Sovetuiu nachat' s amerikanskih aviakompanii. Oni skoree ne potrebuiut togo, chto ne trebuetsia dlia v'ezda v USA.
Pravda, ia ne iskliuchaiu, chto pasport (no ne boarding letter) takje mojet trebovat'sia vlastiami strany, iz kotoroi vy vyletaete. Eto zavisit ot strany.

[raevsky]

Kstati, esli vy sobiraetes' poluchat' boarding letter v Moskve, to etim zanimaetsia ne konsul'stvo, a USCIS - https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?ac....statecode=arm
Na territorii byvshego CCCP vy mojete poluchit' boarding letter v liubom konsul'stve (krome moskovskogo, poskol'ku v Moskve est' otdelenie USCIS)

[eiram]

net mi ne v Mosjve. Mi projivaem v Gruzii.
Raevsky a kak nas4et paketov kotorie mi doljni budem otdat emigracionnoi slujbe pri viezde v США ? Naskolko ya ponimau V tom slu4ae esli mi ne sdelaem Vizu u nas ne budet etix dokumentov. Ne sozdast li eto problemu?
I eshe po toi ssilke kotoruiu vi mne dali ya ponyal 4to rebenku ne nujno imet vizu v tom sluchae esli mi imeem iuridicheskoe pravo postoyannogo jitelya v USA, no imeem li mi ego? Mi je poka ne razu ne bili v Amerike tolko poluchili vizi i vse.
Stoet li mne poiti v Posolstvo s etoi informaciei i razobratsya?

[raevsky]

Raevsky a kak nas4et paketov kotorie mi doljni budem otdat emigracionnoi slujbe pri viezde v США ?

Eto tol'ko esli viza est'. Esli ee net, to nichego otdavat' ne doljny

Naskolko ya ponimau V tom slu4ae esli mi ne sdelaem Vizu u nas ne budet etix dokumentov. Ne sozdast li eto problemu?

Ne sozdast

I eshe po toi ssilke kotoruiu vi mne dali ya ponyal 4to rebenku ne nujno imet vizu v tom sluchae esli mi imeem iuridicheskoe pravo postoyannogo jitelya v USA, no imeem li mi ego?

Ne tol'ko. Prosto podrobnye instrukcii kak imenno poluchit' pis'mo, - sostavleny imenno dlia etogo sluchaia. Instrukcia na granice govorit o neskol'kih sluchaiah, v kotoryh ne nujna viza. Rojdenie rebenka za granicei u GC holderov - odin iz nih. Rojdenie rebenka u teh, u kogo uje est' immigracionnaia viza - drugoi sluchai.

Etu ssylku ia vam dal ne dlia etogo. A dlia togo, chtoby vy znali kakoe imenno vam nujno pis'mo iz konsul'stva. Poskol'ku pis'mo iz konsul'stva v etom sluchae nichem ne otlichaetsia ot pis'ma v vashem sluchae.

Esli vy ne v sostoianii prochitat' instrukciu oficeru na granice (vidimo, s angliiskim ploho), to dam vam escio odnu - ssylku s instrukciei dlia konsula.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/87519.pdf

9 FAM 42.1 N1.1 Child Born After Issuance of Visa to Parent
(TL:VISA-481; 10-31-2002)
The child born after the issuance of a visa to a parent is not required to have a visa if the child is:
(1) Born subsequent to issuance of an IV to the accompanying parent within the validity of the parent’s immigrant visa (see also 9 FAM 42.1 N2); or
(2) Born during the mother’s temporary visit abroad provided:
(a) Admission is within two years of birth; and
(b) Either accompanying parent is applying for readmission upon first return after the birth of the child.

Kak vidite, p.1 otnositsia k vam, a p.2 - k tem, u kogo GC i za granicei rodilsia rebenok. Viza ne nujna rebenku v oboih sluchaiah.

Escio raz privedu instrukciu oficeru na granice.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/aila/InspectorsTOC.pdf

CBP Inspector’s Field Manual

14.5 Admission of Certain Immigrant Children without Immigrant Visas. (Revised IN99-11) (Amended IN98-21) (Revised IN98-07)
Children may be admitted as new immigrants without presenting an immigrant visa under two circumstances:
- A child born to an accompanying parent after issuance of an immigrant visa to the parent but prior to the parent’s initial admission as an immigrant (XE3, XF3, XR3 or XN3); or
- A child, under 2 years of age, born during a temporary absence of a lawful permanent resident mother if the child is accompanying the parent who is reentering the U.S. as a returning resident for the first time after the birth of the child (NA3).
You must establish the relationship between parent and child, generally by a birth certificate (with English translation) and, of course, the admissibility of the parent. There have been incidents of attempted fraud in such cases, so in doubtful cases, corroborating evidence such as medical records may be required. Verify the parent’s LPR status using the Central Index System.
It is important that you properly record the admission of such new immigrants. If you are processing a child born subsequent to the issuance of an immigrant visa, use the following admission symbols:
• XE3 Parent is an employment based immigrant;
• XF3 Parent is a family based immigrant;
• XR3 Parent is an immediate relative; or
• XN3 Parent is none of the above.
A child admitted with a returning resident parent is admitted in class NA3.
Upon admission, stamp the passport (the parent’s passport if the child has none) with the admission stamp and endorse it with the admission symbol above. Stamp the “temporary I-551” stamp in the passport. Complete Form I-181, Memorandum of Creation of Record of Lawful Permanent Residence. Check the block marked “other law” and note the block 8 CFR 211.1(b)(1). Place an admission stamp on the right side of the block reserved for use by visa control office and endorse it with the appropriate visa symbol. Complete Transaction 1 of Form I-89, including a photograph, and forward the I-89, I-181, and copy of the birth certificate to the recipient indicated in appendix 15-8 for creation of the alien file and production of the child’s alien registration card. Forward a copy of the I-181 to the file of the parent.

Sinii cvet - vash, a krasnyi - rojdenie rebenka u GC holderov za granicei. Viza ne nujnna v oboih sluchaiah. Pohoje, u vas bol'shaia problema s iazykom, otsiuda vse problemy.

Mi je poka ne razu ne bili v Amerike tolko poluchili vizi i vse.
Stoet li mne poiti v Posolstvo s etoi informaciei i razobratsya?

Ia uje skazal, chto viza vam ne nujna. Esli vasha aviakompania trebuet boarding letter, vam pridetsia idti v konsul'stvo za nim. A esli ne trebuet, to v konsul'stvo vam hodit' net smysla.
A esli pod razobrat'sia vy ponimaete prochitat' tekst, kotoryi ia vam privel, to ia vam sovetuiu eto sdelat'. Poka vy ne prochitaete etot tekst, vy budete hodit' po krugu i zadavat' odni i te je voprosy.

[eiram]

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[eiram]

Vo izbejanie nepredvidennoi situacii poshel segodnya v Pasolstvo za BABY TRANSPORTATION LETTER. No polu4il otkaz ot sotrudnika pasolstva. s obyasneniem chto baby ttransportation letter v slu4ai grin karti ne podxodit. Poprosili nashi konverti i provesti vsiu standartnuiu prodceduru dlya rebenka. I pasolskie sbori 775$ .